A commission-paid insurance agent and a fee-only investment adviser both owe you a duty in New York. Who pays them, and how long that duty lasts, is where they differ. For NYPD and FDNY members deciding what to do with a 457 or pension money.
The short answer. In New York, an insurance agent who recommends an annuity or a life insurance policy has to act in your best interest for that sale, under the state's Regulation 187. The agent is usually paid a commission by the insurance company. An investment adviser owes you a fiduciary duty that covers the whole advisory relationship you agree to, including advice on whether to roll money over, and a fee-only adviser is paid only by its clients. So the question isn't whether anyone owes you a duty. It's who pays them, and whether the duty covers one sale or the years after it.
Not in the same way an investment adviser is, but the agent isn't free to sell you anything either. New York's Regulation 187 (11 NYCRR Part 224) says an agent recommending a life insurance policy or an annuity must act in your best interest. Only your interests can be considered. The agent can still be paid a commission, as long as the pay doesn't influence the recommendation. The standard applies to the sale "at the time of the transaction." New York's highest court upheld the rule in October 2022.
The same rule says that when the agent makes a recommendation, they have to give you the reasons for it, both favorable and unfavorable, in a summary you can read, and write down the basis for it. An agent also can't call themselves a financial planner or financial advisor unless they're properly licensed or certified and actually provide those services.
| Who | Who pays them | What they owe you | For how long |
|---|---|---|---|
| Insurance agent selling an annuity or life policy in New York | Usually a commission from the insurance company on the sale, and sometimes ongoing "trail" payments. | Best interest when recommending the sale (Regulation 187). | The sale, at the time it happens. |
| Broker recommending investments | Fees on each transaction, so more trades mean more pay. | Best interest "at the time the recommendation is made" (the SEC's Regulation Best Interest). | The recommendation. The firm's Form CRS has to say whether it monitors your account after that, and many say they don't. |
| Fee-only investment adviser | Only you, usually a yearly fee on the assets it manages, or a fixed or hourly fee. | A fiduciary duty of care and loyalty: it can't put its interest ahead of yours, and has to remove or fully disclose its conflicts. | The whole advisory relationship you agree to, including monitoring at the frequency that relationship calls for. |
Every way of being paid pulls in some direction. The SEC makes brokers say that paying per trade gives them a reason to encourage trading, and makes advisers say that a fee on assets gives them a reason to encourage you to bring in more money. Knowing which pull applies to the person across the table is most of the point.
These are the decisions where the question of who gets paid matters most, because each one usually involves moving a lump of money.
None of this means an annuity or a rollover is wrong for you. It means you should know what you'd give up, and who is paid if you move.
Ask these of an agent, a broker or an adviser, us included. Several are worded the way the SEC requires firms to print them.
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Our own conflict. Sirmium Capital is a fee-only investment adviser: it is paid only by its clients and takes no commissions. Its fee is a percentage of the assets it manages, so the firm earns more if you move money into an account it manages, and nothing on money you leave in the 457. Our fees are on Working With Us.
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